barbed_whispers has never seen Star Wars. marilla82 has never seen Buffy. They each think missing the other is stranger. I'm here to prove one of them right.
Star Wars has been around all my life, it feels like. I ran around as a little kid pretending to be Princess Leia (and I think she's a great icon and role model). Plus Young!Harrison Ford!
There was even that Ewoks cartoon when we were kids. ("We are the E-E-E-E-E-E-Ewoks, in the spirit of the forest grove"... or something like that. Remember?)
I love Buffy - it's one of the few series I started collecting in boxed sets DVDs as well as recording episodes to keep - but I can understand people feeling that it wasn't for them.
When I first heard the premise, I thought I'd never heard anything so stupid. (I thought the same about TMNT... and ended up a fan of that too!) The idea of a pretty young teenage girl running about fighting and doing gymnastic-type martial arts... it just seemed so sexist and provokative. It seemed *designed* for kids, but the sort of thing adult men would watch the same way they watch Baywatch, you know?
Then I actually watched it. And between Anthony Stewart Head and the intelligence of the writing and the fact that it wasn't the sort of High School drama that's all about the in-crowd which I could never belong to (I could actually *relate* to Willow!)... and I became a fan.
Thinking about it, I actually hated the premise of the Stargate movie, too (being a history geek, Aliens Built the Pyramids made me mad :D)... Is there a pattern here? LOL
But yes, while I like Buffy more, I think it is stranger to never have seen any of the Star Wars movies. Not only are they out much longer, but for me it is also easier to get caught by a movie rerun on tv than a tv show re-run. Might be the times they air them here, though. But also renting/buying a random DVD is more likely to be a movie than a random tv show for me.
Also, I think all the cultural references everywhere would probably have made me curious at some point.
I think it's a generational thing, too. If you weren't old enough to go to the first Star Wars movie in the theaters or are now a child of someone who did, you most likely aren't going to have as strong of an urge to see it.
However, the Buffy viewer (IMO) is the person who is in between those two generations - not quite old enough to see SW in the theater and yet not the child of someone who did.
So while I may be biased toward Buffy, if you are between the ages of 25 and 35, I think it is stranger to have not seen any Buffy than Star Wars.
Star Wars has been around more than twice the length of Buffy and airs with more frequency and variety. Plus, as you mentioned, the cultural pervasiveness of Star Wars is astounding.
Star Wars is epic. EPIC, I tell you!! Of course barbed_whispers is younger than me by quite a bit and maybe I think it's stranger because I remember when the movie came out in theaters- the first time.
My heart will always lie with Buffy, but a lot of people haven't seen a tv show with a strange title.
But if barbed_whispers does see Star Wars she'll break her trend of never seeing any movie/show with "star" in the title! HER RECORD WILL BE BROKEN. *sings "Like a Virgin"*
I can see that, but I'm not just talking about the original trilogy. I mean any Star Wars at all. The original trilogy and the prequel trilogy were released while Buffy was on the air, so I don't think generations have much to do with exposure to Star Wars.
My love for Buffy is likewise insane. :D So while I'd be more surprised if someone hasn't been Star Wars, I'd be more sympathetic towards them if they haven't seen Buffy. Life seems so... ordinary without Buffy in it.
I'm in that age group and I've never seen Buffy. And I didn't grow up with SW. But SW was re-released in theaters, don't forget, and that's when I saw them. (Of course, I lose nerd cred for therefore not minding the re-releases' changes....)
So I don't think it's an age thing. I think Buffy is a little more specific-genre than SW. I don't like vampire stuff, so it's simply never interested me. SW is more casual and it's easier for people to get into. Plus, being movies vs. TV eps makes SW more accessible to people giving it a watch.
She's in the middle of Season 3 of SG-1 (and I think eventually she'll get to SGA). She's in the middle of Season 2 of Supernatural. I'm making her watch Buffy and Angel... and Farscape. Oh, and she still needs to watch the final 2 episodes of Wonderfalls.
I think that might be everything I'm making her watch, though. Which is totally only another 31 seasons of tv. Totally doable.
(Of course, I lose nerd cred for therefore not minding the re-releases' changes....)
For the record, I don't mind some of the changes and I think it's awesome to have some of the additional scenes. The two changes that actually bother me are:
1. Han shot first. And this is because I think him shooting first says a lot about his character and I like him as a scoundrel and that he's a bounty hunter and that he has questionable morals.
Do I think it "ruined" the film to have Greedo shoot first? Eh, whatever.
2. CELEBRATE THE LOVE. This is 100% me, my childhood, and my yub nubs. I hate that they removed the song Celebrate the Love from the end of Return of the Jedi. HAAAATE. Because I love that song. Because I'm weird.
YUB NUB!
But I don't think it matters if you're bothered or not bothered by the changes. Both versions are out on DVD, watch the one you prefer.
I have some of Slings and Arrows in my Netflix queue, so maybe that will happen. First I want to finish Six Feet Under and possibly Carnivale (though I was having trouble getting into Carnivale).
Normally for both I'd tie people to chairs and make them watch, but it's hilarious that barbed_whispers hasn't seen Star Wars. (Mostly because we've told her that Jedi are bakers and Stormtroopers are on Atkins because of their plastic uniforms and the entire battle is over carbs. Also, stormtroopers troop through storms.)
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