The Breaking of SG-1 (Season 4)

  • Dec. 11th, 2016 at 11:32 AM
theemdash: SG-1 classic team (SG-1 Team)
Currently watching SG-1 and alternating all-caps text about Daniel Jackson to [personal profile] sopdetly, [personal profile] imthelobster, and [livejournal.com profile] getaway_machine. A quarter of the texts are about how snarky or pretty he is, half of the texts are about him being pure and loyal and persistent, and the last quarter usually relate to Jack in some way (because I am predictable). I'm not quite sure what year it is, but I'm enjoying the hell out of my rewatch and rekindling my obsession.


I have a lot of love for Season 4 even though Jack and Daniel are (arguably) the most at odds during this season. In fact, the season literally starts with Daniel separated from the rest of the team ("Small Victories") and there are a good many episodes in which Daniel is pulled away from the team and operating largely outside of the team dynamic ("The First Ones," "Scorched Earth," "Beneath the Surface," "Prodigy"...). And even if Daniel is with the team, there are a bunch of episodes in which he's separated from Jack ("Watergate," "Tangent," "The Curse," "Chain Reaction"...). It puts a lot of stress on the "solid foundation" of friendship the viewers have seen in the first three seasons and is probably why all the slashers freak out when Jack pushes Daniel's glasses up in "The Serpent's Venom." (Oh yes, years removed from SG-1 fandom, but you'd better believe I still remember that moment.)

I always thought "2010" was odd because of how detached the team seems in the future—and not just Jack, because Daniel seems oddly "shut off" as well. But seeing how "2010" is a conjectured future from the status quo of Season 4, yeah, that makes sense because the team is an utter mess during Season 4. Daniel gets loaned out to other SG teams more and more often—that's what he's doing in "The First Ones," and then he doesn't even appear in "Prodigy" because he's off with SG-11, which is basically his other team (and now I want to write fic about that, someone remind me of that later)—and that's the crack that allows—or pushes—Daniel to accept Ascension at the end of Season 5. It's odd that one of my favorite seasons is the season that pushes my favorite character to the side of the team dynamic. (My other favorite season—and I can't really choose a favorite between the two—is Season 7, which is the exact opposite of Season 4, melding the team into a unit as solid and co-dependent as it was in the two seasons.) Admittedly, I like tension and angst, so maybe that's part of what I enjoy about Season 4, but I do think its odd because as the season goes on it feels more and more like Daniel is estranged from SG-1. He fits in occasionally, but there are many times when his odd-shaped piece doesn't fit snuggly with the rest of the puzzle.

So, uh, yeah. I've been having some thoughts about SG-1 and story structure. Apparently. >.> What year is it?

A Brief Two for My SG-1 Flisters

  • Dec. 9th, 2016 at 5:47 PM
theemdash: SG-1 classic team (SG-1 Team)
Do I spoiler cut for a show that's been off the air for almost 10 years? (Also, please scream with me over that thought.)

(1) For some reason I always remember that I greatly dislike "Divide and Conquer" and assume it's entirely because of what feels (to me) like some very forced Jack/Sam-iness. And I completely forget that it is also the episode in which spoiler ) You'd think I'd remember an event like that, and yet it surprises me every time I watch it. Weird, right?

(2) I turned my DVD back on to sit down to watch another episode and realized "Window of Opportunity" is up. I of course reacted by saying, "Woo, it's WoO!" I'd blame it on the cold medicine, only that silliness is for sure just me.

Well That Was a Feel Down Memory Lane

  • Dec. 7th, 2016 at 9:01 AM
theemdash: (SG-1 Jack & Daniel The Light)
I've been rewatching SG-1 and just hit Season 4. During Season 3, especially after "Forever in a Day," I was doing a little lip-biting over some of the Jack and Daniel interactions, especially the "solid foundation" in "Shades of Grey" and Jack's reminder of Daniel's shoes in "Maternal Instinct."

But then I hit "Small Victories."

And Daniel rushing to the 'gate room when the rest of SG-1 gates in.

And then Daniel having to make the call to detonate the sub with Jack and Teal'c still on it.

And Jack and Daniel communicating with just their names.

And then Daniel realizing Jack and Teal'c were okay and becoming wordless in his joy.

...

Where is my fic folder of unfinished ideas???

PS Does anyone have any fic recs set around early season 4? I can't remember anything set around "Small Victories." (Also, sadly many of my bookmarks are dead and I haven't been diligent about finding if the fics have been reposted elsewhere.)

PPS Maybe this will encourage me to actually archive everything on AO3 like I keep saying I will.
theemdash: SG-1 classic team (SG-1 Team)
I meant to start an SG-1 rewatch at the beginning of August so I could get through a couple seasons before DragonCon, but I was too busy drafting and by the time I was hitting bed each night I was too tired to even consider putting in a DVD to fall asleep to.

Today, though, I got home from a writing date and was desperate for some downtime, so I put in my (new) Director's Cut of "Children of the Gods."* By the time Jack's profile hit the screen I was falling in love with this show all over again. One of the things that is most enjoyable is how utterly unprepared the SGC is for dealing with opening their Stargate to the entire universe. The first season is filled with fuck up after fuck up and I adore that the show highlights the complete ineptitude of people who think they can deal with things that are wholly outside of their experience. Of course as the show continues, everyone gains competency, but the first season underscores the reality of what would happen if the American military got their hands on something like the Stargate. As ridiculous and frustrating as this show can be (I'm looking at you, "Citizen Joe"), I think there are good lessons to be learned for military sci-fi.

*I didn't realize/remember the Director's Cut nixed the nudity! Also, I think they added some ~looks between Sam and Jack during the initial briefing. I kind of want to compare now.

Seeking New SG Commanding Officer

  • Jul. 20th, 2012 at 9:58 AM
theemdash: SG-1 classic team (SG-1 Team)
I'm looking for new moderators for [livejournal.com profile] stargate_summer to take over the SG-1 Big Bang for 2013 and beyond.

I'm planning to hand over ownership of the DW and LJ comms, the related email address for coordination, and any relevant files, which will provide the new moderators with a lot of organizational information and timelines for how the previous big bangs have run.

If interested or if you have questions, reply at this post or PM me directly.

Stargate Continuum

  • Jul. 29th, 2008 at 8:05 PM
theemdash: SG-1 classic team (SG-1 Team)
So, I have something to admit.

I forgive Sci-Fi for cancelling SG-1.

It's true. Because if they hadn't have cancelled SG-1, the writers and crew would not have had the time and focus to actually write and film a story this good. HOLY CRAP. 90% of this movie is about the characters and not things exploding. It is everything I love about SG-1 and pretty much nothing I have ever hated about it.

I . . . I cannot express how very, very happy I am with this film.

Dude. I liked Serenity, but this is what Serenity should have been.

Now please excuse me while I go watch the movie again.

Minor Spoiler & Daniel Flailing )

ETA If you didn't like Continuum, I'm very sorry for you. I can probably come up with actual critiques later, but right now I'm basking. And flailing. And trying not to squeal too much.

SG-1 ♥ Forever

  • Jun. 17th, 2008 at 2:05 PM
theemdash: SG-1 classic team (SG-1 Team)
Oh SG-1, I will love you forever.

Many thanks to [livejournal.com profile] charmedstrange1 for posting this, and [livejournal.com profile] sopdetly there are clips of out-of-context spoilers through Season 8.

This Is What I Watch

  • May. 7th, 2008 at 1:23 PM
theemdash: (Joss)
I've seen this on a few journals (most notably with [livejournal.com profile] princessofg and [livejournal.com profile] tenaya) and I have to post it because it's exactly how I feel about fandom and why I try not to put down my friends' favorite shows (also why I will give shows repeated chances).

Your Friends Are Not Watching the Same Show You Are (And That's Okay)

[livejournal.com profile] teyana did something interesting with this and named the shows she's watching and I saw that and thought, "Yes, I have to do that." So, I'm doing that.

These Are The Shows I’m Watching

Buffy the Vampire Slayer )

Angel )

Firefly )

Stargate: SG-1 )

Stargate: Atlantis )

Saiyuki )

Fullmetal Alchemist )

What are your shows?

This Is What I Watch

  • May. 7th, 2008 at 1:23 PM
theemdash: (Joss)
I've seen this on a few journals (most notably with [livejournal.com profile] princessofg and [livejournal.com profile] tenaya) and I have to post it because it's exactly how I feel about fandom and why I try not to put down my friends' favorite shows (also why I will give shows repeated chances).

Your Friends Are Not Watching the Same Show You Are (And That's Okay)

[livejournal.com profile] teyana did something interesting with this and named the shows she's watching and I saw that and thought, "Yes, I have to do that." So, I'm doing that.

These Are The Shows I’m Watching

Buffy the Vampire Slayer )

Angel )

Firefly )

Stargate: SG-1 )

Stargate: Atlantis )

Saiyuki )

Fullmetal Alchemist )

What are your shows?

SG-1 Question

  • Apr. 10th, 2008 at 9:41 AM
theemdash: (Daniel Huh)
I've been around the bend with [livejournal.com profile] loriel_eris and [livejournal.com profile] lord_varos on this one, but I thought it would be nice to get some other opinions before I commit this to fic.

In "Children of the Gods" Daniel says that he was unable to hit any active 'gates when dialing from Abydos. Can you think of any technical reasons we've seen in the series that would explain this?

My feeling is that the correlative updates kind of blew this away, but then there's also the attempt to separate off several 'gates into their own network, so perhaps Ra did something like that? (However if that was the case, how was Apophis able to dial out from the Abydos 'gate? And why didn't Ra lock out the Earth 'gate?)

To be honest, I'm kind of hoping no one can come up with a technical reason that makes sense and that I can claim Daniel lied.

Thoughts? Opinions?

SG-1 Question

  • Apr. 10th, 2008 at 9:41 AM
theemdash: (Daniel Huh)
I've been around the bend with [livejournal.com profile] loriel_eris and [livejournal.com profile] lord_varos on this one, but I thought it would be nice to get some other opinions before I commit this to fic.

In "Children of the Gods" Daniel says that he was unable to hit any active 'gates when dialing from Abydos. Can you think of any technical reasons we've seen in the series that would explain this?

My feeling is that the correlative updates kind of blew this away, but then there's also the attempt to separate off several 'gates into their own network, so perhaps Ra did something like that? (However if that was the case, how was Apophis able to dial out from the Abydos 'gate? And why didn't Ra lock out the Earth 'gate?)

To be honest, I'm kind of hoping no one can come up with a technical reason that makes sense and that I can claim Daniel lied.

Thoughts? Opinions?

Stargate Meme

  • Mar. 25th, 2008 at 9:04 PM
theemdash: SG-1 classic team (SG-1 Team)
What clears the brain better than a meme? Seen with [livejournal.com profile] princessofg, [livejournal.com profile] kefira, and others.

Stargate! (GAM, There Be Spoilers) )

I Have Seen The Ark

  • Mar. 11th, 2008 at 9:47 PM
theemdash: SG-1 classic team (SG-1 Team)
. . . and it was filled with Truth. Also, hot boys.

SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS )

For anyone interested in Special Features, the panel from Comic Con is on the disc. I'd just like to flail that I was there! *flails* Now I don't have to worry about the fact that I never wrote up my con report. ;)

Fandom Meme

  • Dec. 29th, 2007 at 4:10 PM
theemdash: SG-1 classic team (SG-1 Team)
snatched from [livejournal.com profile] zakai_. . .

Fandom Meme, Yes, It's About SG-1 )

Well, that was a wonderful distraction from the writing I should be doing. :D

Melting Bone

  • Nov. 23rd, 2007 at 8:54 PM
theemdash: (SG-1 Sam)
A few years back I wound up writing a research paper on forensic investigation for arson. (Actually the research paper was on something else and this was a loosely related topic and infinitely more interesting, so, um. . . .) Since then I've taken to critiquing tv shows saying things like, "There's no way that fire would have turned that bone to ash" and then explaining to everyone within hearing distance why that fire wouldn't have turned that bone to ash.

Recently I saw a show in which a fire melted bone. And just, no, no way can a fire melt bone. Bone doesn't melt. Right?

Well, while trying to decide what to NaBloPoMo today, I thought I'd google a little information on whether or not bone can melt. And apparently, bone can melt. Color me stunned.

Bone begins to melt around 1600 °C (2912 °F). To put that into perspective, a crematorium generates 870-980 °C (1600-1800 °F). Cremated ashes will have some bone fragments because all of the bone doesn't turn to ash (though most funeral homes will powder the remaining bone fragments).

Despite evidence that bone can melt, I still think that particular show was wrong, wrong, wrong because keeping an open fire hot enough to completely incinerate a body is difficult enough, but adding an additional 600+ °C would be impossible. To burn a fire that hot you need an accelerant and a closed area. Open fires need not apply, Mr. Mustang.

In case you are wondering, the two episodes that make me go into my bone-ash-melt rage are SG-1's "The First Commandment" (yeah, total ash? I don't think so) and FMA's "Laws and Promises" (melting bone, possible, but not in this case).

This post in no way advocates playing with fire.

Melting Bone

  • Nov. 23rd, 2007 at 8:54 PM
theemdash: (SG-1 Sam)
A few years back I wound up writing a research paper on forensic investigation for arson. (Actually the research paper was on something else and this was a loosely related topic and infinitely more interesting, so, um. . . .) Since then I've taken to critiquing tv shows saying things like, "There's no way that fire would have turned that bone to ash" and then explaining to everyone within hearing distance why that fire wouldn't have turned that bone to ash.

Recently I saw a show in which a fire melted bone. And just, no, no way can a fire melt bone. Bone doesn't melt. Right?

Well, while trying to decide what to NaBloPoMo today, I thought I'd google a little information on whether or not bone can melt. And apparently, bone can melt. Color me stunned.

Bone begins to melt around 1600 °C (2912 °F). To put that into perspective, a crematorium generates 870-980 °C (1600-1800 °F). Cremated ashes will have some bone fragments because all of the bone doesn't turn to ash (though most funeral homes will powder the remaining bone fragments).

Despite evidence that bone can melt, I still think that particular show was wrong, wrong, wrong because keeping an open fire hot enough to completely incinerate a body is difficult enough, but adding an additional 600+ °C would be impossible. To burn a fire that hot you need an accelerant and a closed area. Open fires need not apply, Mr. Mustang.

In case you are wondering, the two episodes that make me go into my bone-ash-melt rage are SG-1's "The First Commandment" (yeah, total ash? I don't think so) and FMA's "Laws and Promises" (melting bone, possible, but not in this case).

This post in no way advocates playing with fire.

Top Fives

  • Nov. 20th, 2007 at 11:10 PM
theemdash: (Daniel Smart)
[livejournal.com profile] getaway_machine made me start thinking about top five lists and—while this is somewhat painful to do—I think I've got a top five fictional characters list:

1. Daniel Jackson
2. Remus Lupin
3. Edward Elric
4. Wesley Wyndam-Pryce
5. Cho Hakkai

I went for character complexity on this list and I should note that Raphael is Beyond Lists.

Also, while I'm doing Top Five Lists, let me mention the ones I'm actually sure of:

Top Five Buffy Episodes
1. The Zeppo
2. Restless
3. The Body
4. Hush
5. Once More With Feeling

Top Five Angel Episodes
1. Not Fade Away
2. I Will Remember You
3. A Hole in the World
4. Waiting in the Wings
5. Deep Down

Top Five SG-1 Episodes
1. Menace
2. Revisions
3. Prototype
4. The Other Side
5. Abyss

And finally,

Top Five Fandoms
1. Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Angel, SG-1
2. Firefly, Harry Potter, Fullmetal Alchemist, Saiyuki
3. Farscape, Chuck, Peacemaker Kurogane, Ultimate Spider-Man, Heroes
4. SGA, Battlestar Galactica, Pushing Daises, Veronica Mars, Alias, Wonderfalls
5. Doctor Who, Highlander, Death Note, LotR

TMNT and Star Wars defy classification. Like seriously.

Also, I'm pretty sure I'm forgetting some fandom because I have too many. Also, this list only begins to explain how I look at fandom. It would take a few essays for me to talk about why I have them grouped liked this.

Anyway, discussions on any of the above is encouraged, especially if you start formulating your own top five lists. I love lists with five things in them.

Top Fives

  • Nov. 20th, 2007 at 11:10 PM
theemdash: (Daniel Smart)
[livejournal.com profile] getaway_machine made me start thinking about top five lists and—while this is somewhat painful to do—I think I've got a top five fictional characters list:

1. Daniel Jackson
2. Remus Lupin
3. Edward Elric
4. Wesley Wyndam-Pryce
5. Cho Hakkai

I went for character complexity on this list and I should note that Raphael is Beyond Lists.

Also, while I'm doing Top Five Lists, let me mention the ones I'm actually sure of:

Top Five Buffy Episodes
1. The Zeppo
2. Restless
3. The Body
4. Hush
5. Once More With Feeling

Top Five Angel Episodes
1. Not Fade Away
2. I Will Remember You
3. A Hole in the World
4. Waiting in the Wings
5. Deep Down

Top Five SG-1 Episodes
1. Menace
2. Revisions
3. Prototype
4. The Other Side
5. Abyss

And finally,

Top Five Fandoms
1. Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Angel, SG-1
2. Firefly, Harry Potter, Fullmetal Alchemist, Saiyuki
3. Farscape, Chuck, Peacemaker Kurogane, Ultimate Spider-Man, Heroes
4. SGA, Battlestar Galactica, Pushing Daises, Veronica Mars, Alias, Wonderfalls
5. Doctor Who, Highlander, Death Note, LotR

TMNT and Star Wars defy classification. Like seriously.

Also, I'm pretty sure I'm forgetting some fandom because I have too many. Also, this list only begins to explain how I look at fandom. It would take a few essays for me to talk about why I have them grouped liked this.

Anyway, discussions on any of the above is encouraged, especially if you start formulating your own top five lists. I love lists with five things in them.

SG Birthdays

  • Nov. 8th, 2007 at 11:04 AM
theemdash: SG-1 classic team (SG-1 Team)
On behalf of [livejournal.com profile] loriel_eris I ask my massive and highly SG-knowledgeable flist: What are Sam and Jack's birthdates?

Here's everything I dug up:

Daniel
(Because everything starts with Daniel.)

Daniel's birthday is July 8, as said in "Forever in a Day."

In "1969" we learn that Daniel was "about 4 and a half years old [in 1969]" (which someone needs to teach Daniel the meaning of "about") and therefore born in 1965 or 1964, making his DOB July 8, 1965 or 1964. Fanon tends to go with the 1965 year.

Sam
In "Ascension" Orlin makes a comment about Sam's birthstone being emerald which would mean her birthday is in May.

"Entity" has her birthday listed on screen as December 29, 1968. However, I very rarely trust prop references since they are often inconsistent. Does anyone know of a second source for this information or if there is a conflicting reference? (btw-this date was pulled from the StargateWiki as I'm not that good to remember Sam's birthday.)

Jack
"Fragile Balance" has a prop reference for Jack's birthday as October 20, 1952 (again, as referenced by the StargateWiki). However this is a prop reference and I'm about 80% sure that there is a conflicting prop reference in an earlier episode, though I can't remember which one. My other point of confusion is that I thought Jack was only 9 years older than Daniel (that of course could just be fanfic leaking into my brain, though).


So, learned flist, I know one of you has either done the research or remembers where to find it. What are the conflicting information and accepted answers?

Also, I'd just like to point out that this post is not about Fullmetal Alchemist and you should all thank [livejournal.com profile] loriel_eris for that.

SG Birthdays

  • Nov. 8th, 2007 at 11:04 AM
theemdash: SG-1 classic team (SG-1 Team)
On behalf of [livejournal.com profile] loriel_eris I ask my massive and highly SG-knowledgeable flist: What are Sam and Jack's birthdates?

Here's everything I dug up:

Daniel
(Because everything starts with Daniel.)

Daniel's birthday is July 8, as said in "Forever in a Day."

In "1969" we learn that Daniel was "about 4 and a half years old [in 1969]" (which someone needs to teach Daniel the meaning of "about") and therefore born in 1965 or 1964, making his DOB July 8, 1965 or 1964. Fanon tends to go with the 1965 year.

Sam
In "Ascension" Orlin makes a comment about Sam's birthstone being emerald which would mean her birthday is in May.

"Entity" has her birthday listed on screen as December 29, 1968. However, I very rarely trust prop references since they are often inconsistent. Does anyone know of a second source for this information or if there is a conflicting reference? (btw-this date was pulled from the StargateWiki as I'm not that good to remember Sam's birthday.)

Jack
"Fragile Balance" has a prop reference for Jack's birthday as October 20, 1952 (again, as referenced by the StargateWiki). However this is a prop reference and I'm about 80% sure that there is a conflicting prop reference in an earlier episode, though I can't remember which one. My other point of confusion is that I thought Jack was only 9 years older than Daniel (that of course could just be fanfic leaking into my brain, though).


So, learned flist, I know one of you has either done the research or remembers where to find it. What are the conflicting information and accepted answers?

Also, I'd just like to point out that this post is not about Fullmetal Alchemist and you should all thank [livejournal.com profile] loriel_eris for that.

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